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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
电影挺精彩的，虽然是杜撰，但还是有很强的代入感。有点美化张的感觉。保罗才是真正爱国的人，键盘侠们看看吧
有一点没看明白：党卫军军官既然没在英国翻译的房间里搜到文件，为什么还要打英国翻译？
看完没几天，今天听说真打起来了，不知道我们能不能见证历史了。不懂历史，从电影看算是给了张伯伦一个很正面的形象吧，但也说明对方是疯子的时候，特别是一个很厉害的疯子的时候，是不是和平只能是疯子说了算，“至少努力过”只是一种自我安慰。
小将们奋力一搏，老家伙们还木知木觉。关于张伯伦当时掌握的信息面，还可以去参考看石黑一雄写的《长日将尽》。
感觉精髓是片尾阴天下被攥在手里的纸，真的很脆弱
【021】倾向太明显，剧情和角色设置又略显单薄……
那时候的mask是防毒气的，现在都mask是防病毒的
这小说的节奏直接照搬来电影很奇怪 没有一个视觉听觉上的高潮 一般
历史总是惊人的相似，当紧张气氛弥漫在凌晨的夜空之上，真得分不清历史和现实哪一个更加贴近我的生活……
6.5 A故事以虚写实 给一个剖面看到战争爆发前各方的状态 强调小人物对于历史虽然微乎其微但日拱一卒的推动 希特勒初次登场的那场戏特别好 缺点是强行类型元素 让人出戏地强作惊悚悬疑 又为了突出主角之间的冲突把谍战戏搞的非常儿戏 而且导演对自己的表达太不自信了 生怕观众看不懂恨不得把自己的中心思想让张伯伦给念出来 话虽如此但还是好过乔乔兔之类的几百条街吧
历史在注视着我们，文人的幻想对家国的思愁都寄托在年轻人上
"I'd miss you.." "Good bye!"
一触即发的大战，他们有别的选择，但他们没选择其他答案。
对这个电影的好感更多来自于求知欲的满足，从来不对二战感兴趣，以往的了解都来自于影音资料。在还原历史的基础上，凸显了几个人物，历史既视感很强。两位小人物的性格直接影射了英国的保守与德国的激进。小人物的努力与首相的选择做出对比，深感政治真是无上的脑力游戏。
电影是拍得不错，但结论观点却很可笑。欧美的学者和政客一直在篡改历史，诺曼底取代斯大林格勒成了二战转折点，中国的抗战变成无足轻重，甚至不值一提，这两年更是甚嚣尘上，斯大林比希特勒还邪恶，这部电影把张伯伦的绥靖政策变成了远见卓识，荒唐的见识正是堕落的欧美现实社会的反映。
3.5星，节奏明快，历史呈现和戏剧性也平衡得不错，算是不错的谍战片。扣分项主要还是为张伯伦翻案方面，本片的角度并不高明。个人不太感冒老生常谈的出卖小国的反帝国主义历史观，但再多的理由也无法为张伯伦这一失败的外交政策翻案。
几个年轻人尽力在历史大潮中掀起一点小水花，片子的历史观与我们熟知的传统观点有些区别。
不得不说，后世评判起当时的人物来确实有种上帝视角的傲慢，但是作为身处那个时代的领导人，制定前瞻性的战略可太需要全局观和充分的信息了。还有，这几位主角真是too handsome to play historical figures。
是部好电影，从另一个角度诠释了张伯伦，政治不是非黑即白，政治家是具有复杂性的，勒加特和保罗所处的职位尚且让他们决策时内心无比挣扎，况张伯伦乎？只是对于最后那句“通过《慕尼黑协定》争取到的额外时间让英国及其盟国得以充分备战，最终导致德国战败”，从斯大林格勒到柏林总统府牺牲的2500万苏联红军表示很淦
时代电影，美化绥靖政策啊，关键也就缓了一年啊，英国了准备了，德国人也更有准备了啊，那会德国还没有直接硬刚英法的实力啊
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