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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
8.0准确无误地拍出了这个剧本，但也被其束缚，不过文本本身所具有的能量足够强大。调度并不平庸，但只是做到了可以做到的——匠气十足的人物/权利关系网（带着压迫的法官位置逐渐被群众压下）。
索金对话和剪辑点太牛批！头两次庭审的对白简直以为拿的是桃谷六仙或者笨贼一箩筐的本子，渐次打开之后每个角色都生动和丰富起来。合理怀疑波拉特同志和索金达成了交易，拿到了最棒的台词和最多的置装费：“你是否蔑视你的政府”“与我的政府对我的蔑视相比，我的蔑视不值一提”“给我点时间好吗，我从未因思考而受审过”；雀斑假意演一个意图杀人放火受招安的渣男角色，但战歌起就一定要有猝不及防糊一脸的美国梦——来预定奥斯卡
“Do you have contempt for your government?” - "It's nothing compared to the contempt my government has for me”
这个真的太棒了！！一人分饰多角 无缝衔接 音乐也很动人
好喜欢！百老汇实力真牛
不知道法学生看了是会反省还是会迷恋这份优越感。
四星半，看哭了，想到很多事，说不出话，说不出话。不想去谈论那些关于什么电影技巧，导演技法，文本是否盖过视听，不想谈，因为没有意义。“—你是否蔑视你的政府？”“—相比政府对我的蔑视，我的蔑视不值一提。”起了一身鸡皮疙瘩。
？？？？？？这个结尾猝不及防。电影本身可谓poorly directed，但索金确实是对话交锋的圣手，仅靠对话去推镜头剧情等一切也能让人体内涌起生理反应的鸡血，并或多或少在他的mansplaining中有所感。（话语权如此性命攸关所以这一整部电影满满当当充斥话语。）（故事中六十年代芝加哥的一切都是为了激励人投票所以这部电影本质也是投票广告。）（顺便，你们知道hayden后来娶了简方达吗。）
1860s和2010s没有任何区别。
结构工整的好处是简洁有力 坏处是让真实的历史仿佛被放入玻璃钟罩里被人凝视打量 鲜活不足 这片子推出的日期就足够玩味 换选年好莱坞干脆不遗余力 一左到底 让大家复习一下历史上的今天 被标签化久了仿佛有标签成了什么坏事似的 可惜这一次我们成了在褐色玻璃里侧的人 觥筹交错间 历史在小酒馆的内外轮转 希望清醒的人能多一点吧。
开始还以为是揭露美国司法黑暗的片子，哪里知道人家司法体系居然真有纠错机制，堂堂大总统想定几个老百姓的罪居然都定不下来。公正的法律的重要性，大多数人大概只有在自己被审判的时候才能体会到。
导演方面其实胜过编剧的，比如开场。全片靠法官的反派光环撑起剧情张力，而对诸如那个在人群中触发对抗的真正引爆情节的无名示威者避而不谈，如果说艾伦索金对民权运动本身不感兴趣，那么他又是如何展示司法体制和意识形态的关联以及权力的蛮横？影片的态度跟最后念名单时不住敲案的法官一样泄气。
welcome to the rock!
名字是世上最长的咒。❤️ 去年看了一半，重新补完。
全世界都在看！好一个“误打误撞”的借古讽今？！枪林弹雨般的密集台词与行云流水的叙事节奏相得益彰，很显然，这是编剧的胜利，以及好剧本的魔力！
3.5 美国时下最需要的电影，也是时下社会需要的那种电影，平实地讲好一个学院派的好故事就是这样动人，希望能在奥斯卡大满贯~！
乏味的很，为什么英雄联盟和芝加哥七君子这两种水火不容的电影类型，都能在豆瓣找到共鸣？因为，它们来自灯塔。我从这部电影里只能看到美国民主的混乱不堪，貌似程序正义背后的弱肉强食，伪善
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抛开其他的想法，看完让我产生思考的是到底存在多少真正意义上的和平游行与和平抗议？世界各地各种组织所组织的各种游行与抗议，我相信里面很多都仅仅只是为了发声，可最后却往往都走向了与政府的对抗，从而产生暴力流血事件！ 很多国家地区还往往都有着可以自由游行自由集会的权利且该权利受法律保护，但对待抗议游行的态度从本片中美国政府的处理就可以管中窥豹，可以说是军警宪特随时待命，不仅不批准场地，明面上有军警周围监控，暗地里还有fbi与警察派人卧底其中，利用民间组织的松散性质和无纪律性质通过情报制定计划产生冲突，从而站在合法的角度上将组织头目一网打尽，最后操控司法机关大搞所谓的“程序正义”审判，这一套流程看的真的让人触目惊心！
纯想象的，从台词的设计到影片的渲染力，很显然艾伦·索金从未想要“还原”什么，这跟戈达尔革命时期拍摄同样题材的《弗拉基米尔和罗莎》异曲同工，两者都以此绝无妥协的姿态试图达到其目标，把审判拍摄成了情景喜剧和摇滚乐演唱会。
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